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Describe Yourself:Pro
Bottom Line:Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
Lay Out: 5" from PAP at 60* PAP angle and 30* VAL angle. Dual angle measurement would be 60/5/30. The pin ended up 1" above my ring finger with the CG tucked under the ring finger. The 60* angle put the RG about an inch right of my thumb. This is a favorite starting lay out of mine for stronger pieces.
Surface: I am box finish which is 3000 sa-air abralon.
Purpose: I wanted to drill up this up to see what it rolled like and also to get it on the lane beside other pieces in my bag (higher oil volume-longer patterns).
Lane Condition Observations: I have thrown this on a couple of different patterns: Left over shot the morning after a strong scratch league and all night open play, Highway to Hell-40 foot- Kegel challenge pattern, and second shift of our normal league pattern. The second shift was following a mixed league full of plastic throwers and head pin hunters. All I can say is I love the reaction of this ball. Strong arcing but predictable would be the best way to describe it. Our house condition is 38 feet on Brunswick Pro Anvil Lane. On the overnight leftovers, I had to start inside of 20 to find upfront oil to push this with and even then, it was still too early. On the Kegel pattern, this ball had surprising recovery down lane. Normally HTH is a medium volume but slightly flatter in the middle than most house shots. As long as I got it going with good direction and motion to my target, I had miss area right of the target by a couple of boards. I got to put it to use following the mixed league in front of us and this ball didn't disappoint. I left a couple of 9 pins late in the set, but was able to keep making 2/1 moves across the pattern and keep striking.
Response to friction:
I would rate this a medium to quick response in box condition. The motion is strong and archy but not whippy off the spot. The response time might go up some with a smoother surface as this bleeds off a lot of energy in box condition.
Other Ball Comparisions: I did get to throw it some side by side with my VG Nano, VG Nano Pearl, Virtual Energy (2), and Nomad Dagger on the Kegel pattern. I played this little game of shimming 2/1 left every 3-4 shots with the Defiant and Nano. The Nano kept up pretty well until I got about 12/6 across the pattern. Then the Nano had too much upfront angle to carry the corners and started to ping half tens. I was about 4/2 right of my original starting point with the Dagger. I could hit the pocket with the Dagger at this spot, but not get much angle to get thru the pin deck very strong. The VE had slightly more motion but again was close to 4/2 right of the Defiant and bouncing off the pins slightly less than the Dagger but not getting thru them enough to want to start a game with. The Nano Pearl was the same look as the VE, then I hit it with a 2000 abr pad. This put the Nano Pearl about 4/2 right of the Defiant but the Nano Pearl was able to get thru the pins much better and also kept up going across the pattern at about 4/2 right of the Defiant. From these observations, it looks like the Defiant and VG Nano Pearl can be good compliments to one another in any bag.
Final Thoughts: The Defiant has a look that is strong arc and reminds me of a couple of other real good sellers from Team Utah in the past (original Cell, Virtual Gravity). The motion is very unique and strong. I would definitely recommend one of these for rev-challenged friends in box condition. This will hook enough to get thru the puddles on any house league shot. Tweeners may be able to throw box if they are a little more speed dominant. Slower speed tweeners and high rev players may need to smooth the surface up to get the most out of the Defiant.
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Pros:Strong backend reaction, Attractive Design, Clears the front
Cons:None
Best Uses:Tournaments, Local Bowling Alley, LongHeavy Patterns
Describe Yourself:Pro
Bottom Line:Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
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Pros:Great Weight, Comfortable Grip, Attractive Design, Flawless Surface
Best Uses:Local Bowling Alley, Heavy oil, Upgrade, Tournaments
Describe Yourself:Pro
Bottom Line:Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
I drilled this marvel with the pin in the center above the fingers with the CG in the center of my grip with the MB kicked out slightly. I use this drilling frequently for league as it tends to work well on my THS (Typical House Shot.) Using the box surface with no alterations I anxiously pulled it out of the bag for league night. I was pleasantly surprised at how stable this ball rolled mostly due to the core design. The longer I left the Defiant in the oil the harder it seemed to hit. With ample oil I have yet to shoot under 250 with this ball when I am able to use it. Sometimes, as with many high performance balls there is simply not enough oil to use it before it "burns up." This has become my benchmark heavy oil ball. In summation, I strongly recommend this ball from intermediate to advanced players looking for a better look on heavy oiled/long pattern lane conditions.
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Best Uses:Local Bowling Alley, Tournaments
Describe Yourself:Pro
Bottom Line:Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
i have used this ball 20 times and i am averaging 210 with this ball. just amazing all the way down the lane. I think there is nothing wrong with this ball.
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Best Uses:Tournaments, Local Bowling Alley
Describe Yourself:League Bowler
Bottom Line:Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
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Pros:Great on med heavy oil, Comfortable Grip, Great Weight, Stay left back end hook
Cons:Dry lanes leave 4 10 pin
Best Uses:Local Bowling Alley, Tournaments
Describe Yourself:League Bowler
Bottom Line:Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
Good for bowlers who have problems moving left. A must stay left and let back end do the work, No muscle. I use this in house conditions for the first 2 games then swich. I use this ball for about 4 or 5 games in a 6 to 8 game series tournaments. I consider this to be the best inside ball I have ever thrown.
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Pros:Continuous strong motion
Best Uses:Tournaments, Upgrade, Local Bowling Alley
Describe Yourself:Pro
Bottom Line:Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
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Pros:Attractive Design
Best Uses:Tournaments
Describe Yourself:League Bowler
Bottom Line:Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
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Hand: LeftBall Speed: 16-17mphBall Weight: 15lbsPAP: 5 left 7/16 upDegrees of Tilt: 17Layout: 5 x 3.5 x 3I drilled the defiant with the pin above the bridge and the mass bias an inch away from my thumb. The ball gives me a clean read through the heads with an even back end reaction. The defiant is a great all around ball for many types of bowlers. It is not a big flip ball so you can get a lot of control and it does not lack on power on the back end for a even ball. I did not think the defiant was going to be stronger than the Virtual Gravity Nano, but once I compared the two I got about 4 to 5 boards more recovery with the Defiant which was really surprising. With the way the ball is designed it is driller friendly so you can use your favorite layout with no problem. The first night of league with the defiant I shot 747 with the factory surface on it. If you are looking for a ball that is an overall strong ball this is the one for you!I have a video on youtube and a picture of my ball and the layout on facebook. If you have any questions about the Defiant email me at [@]. Garrett Richardson Storm/Vise Inserts Amateur Staff The Bowler's Advantage www.facebook.com/grstorm www.stormbowling.com www.rotogrip.com www.viseinserts.com
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Pros:Great Weight, Flawless Surface, Comfortable Grip, Attractive Design
Best Uses:Tournaments
Describe Yourself:League Bowler
Bottom Line:Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
i bought this ball the week before it came out and came out on the 10th i got this ball the next day and i was super exctied! i got it drilled that night and threw it, i loved it. deff worth buying!!! best heavy oil ball ive ever owned!! its gonna work amazingly for high school bowling on thoes heavy oil patterns! :)
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Pros:Crazy Hook, Comfortable Grip, Attractive Design, Flawless Surface, Great Weight
Best Uses:Local Bowling Alley, Tournaments, Leagues
Describe Yourself:League Bowler
Bottom Line:Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
As a High school bowler, this is the ball that will change the game for anyone. Had had the ball for only a couple of days and in that time rolled a 700 series with it. The Defiant always comes back and usually never fails when it hits the pocket. Perfect ball for anyone. I say it beats the Nexus and Frantic combined.
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Pros:Attractive Design, Comfortable Grip, Flawless Surface
Best Uses:Tournaments, Local Bowling Alley
Describe Yourself:League Bowler
Bottom Line:Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
DEFIANT #3 – 50 X 5 X 55 PIN ABOVE THE MIDDLE FINGER AND THE MASS IS LEFT OF THE THUMB AND THE CG IS OUT AT TO THE LEFT OF THE CENTER GRIP LINE
INTENDED USE FOR HEAVY OIL SPORT CONDITIONS WITH DRIER BACK END
TEST BALL ON TURNPIKE, DEAD MAN'S CURVE, AND AUTOBAHN AND A THS
FOUND THE BALL TO ROLL QUITE NICE ALL THE WAY DOWN THE LANE, IT WORKED TO MY ADVANTAGE TO HAVE THIS ONE LAYED OUT THIS WAY AND ANOTHER DRILL WITH A LITTLE MORE BACKEND IN IT. I ENJOYED USING THIS BALL ON SOME FRESH HOUSE SHOT WITH A LITTLE GRITTY LANE PANELS AND SUPER SLICK PANELS. THE BALL PATH WAS NICE AND CONSISENT AND NEVER SHOWED SIGNS OF ANY OVER/UNDER REACTIONS. ONE THING I DID FIND AFTER PLAYING THE SAME TRACK AREA ON THE SAME PAIR OF LANES AND TRANSITIONED TO THE POLISHED PIN UP DEFIANT I HAVE AND CONTINUED TO PLAY THE SAME AREA.
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Pros:Great Weight, Comfortable Grip, Flawless Surface, Attractive Design
Best Uses:Local Bowling Alley
Describe Yourself:League Bowler
Bottom Line:Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
DEFIANT #4 – 50 X 3 3/16 X 70 PIN DOWN AND P3 HOLE AT 2000AB
INTENDED TO REPLACE A THEORY I HAD TO REPLACE A MUTANT CELL I HAD OVER 300 GAMES ON IT
TESTED ON 4 DIFFERENT HOUSE PATTERNS WITH WOOD, HPL, SPL, AND PRO-ANVIL
USED MAINLY ON HPL AND SPL FOR HOUSE PATTERNS ONLY. MY CURRENT BENCHMARK BALL. I FOUND THIS BALL BE HAVE THE MOST EVEN AND CONSTANT ROLL AND HOOK I SEEN IN AWHILE WITH A PIN UNDER DRILLING. ITS STRONG ENOUGH NOT TO BURN OUT IN THE FRONT PART OF THE LANE. I START WITH THIS BALL AT 3 OF THE 4 CENTERS I BOWL AT ON A WEEKLY BASIS. I SWITCH THEN TO A PIN UP, AND THEN TO A PIN UP POLISHED VERSION OF THE DEFIANT.
THIS IS MY 4 DEFIANT I HAD DRILLED AND ALL OF THEM ARE WORKING TO THEIR INTENDED USE. MOST VERSTILE BALL I FOUND SINCE THE ORGINIAL CELL.
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Pros:Flawless Surface, Great Weight, Comfortable Grip, Attractive Design
Cons:ARE YOU KIDDINGnone
Best Uses:Local Bowling Alley, Upgrade, Tournaments
Describe Yourself:League Bowler
Bottom Line:Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
i use this ball in all my leagues...its an absolute monster!!!! it carrys everytime i have alot less ten pins!!! i recommend this ball to anyone! You will not regret getting this ball THANKS TO EVERYONE AT ROTO GRIP YOU GUYS ROCK!!!!!
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