The Motiv Forge line of bowling balls continues with the Motiv Forge Fire. This high performance ball introduces the Infusion Hybrid Reactive coverstock which offers a faster reaction to the friction on the lane than its predessesor, the original Forge. The Forge Fire also utilizes the low RG and high differential symmetrical Detonator core. This ball is great at creating angle for various types of bowlers when facing medium to heavy oil.
Yes, I would recommend this to a friend
The Forge Fire is the first ball I was able to drill up and it sure made a huge impact on me. I drilled my Forge Fire 65x5x35. The biggest thing I love the most about this ball is how predictable the motion is for me. In league I am able to start with this ball and even through transition, I can keep moving left and throw this ball all 3 games and not lose any momentum. This is a benchmark ball for me in my bag and I will not go anywhere without it. I highly recommend getting this ball in your bag!
The Forge Fire has been an instant first ball out of the bag for me since making its debut. It has become my new bench mark, although it is on the stronger side. The Fire has the angular Infusion cover that was first used on the Ripcord, allowing bowlers to create angle on heavier oil patterns. This cover gives a quicker response to friction, therefore creating more angle than the original Forge. I've been able to use this ball on your typical house shot, playing further left on the lane than I normally can on fresh with other balls. I've seen a good transition from trident abyss to forge fire to ripcord throughout a block of tournament play. When I moved left to a point I can't create the angle I needed with the abyss, this ball was there to get through the front and give me strong back end without having to really change where I want to play on the lanes. That last statement is huge for me, I'm a bowler who would rather change balls than move from an area of a lane that I've already become comfortable in if I can. I've seen great things from the Forge Fire from a variety of players, and it is definitely a stand out with the color scheme. Go out, get one, and shoot some scores. Danielle merinoMotiv staff
I drilled two Forge Fireballs because I wanted to see the reaction I'd get down lawn with my traditional 60x5.75x30 and to see how a shorter pin to pap would react(drilled 60x3.75x30).The Forge Fire is a strong symmetrical piece and with my shorter pin to pap layout it works really well on a fresh house shot. When the heads burn up and the ball sees friction early I can stay in the same zone and use my longer pin to pap layout. I noticed that the short pin to pap layout flared a lot more and would burn its energy really early if I wasn't playing deep enough in the oil therefore causing some carry/defection concerns. The longer pin to pap layout gave me room to play right longer and I noticed greater continuation and a higher carry percentage when the lanes broke down.The Forge Fire is cleaner and a faster response ball compared to the Forge. When the Forge responds too quickly to friction you can move to the Fire and get the down lane reaction and the extra push through the fronts. I like the angularity and versatility this ball provides and it can be used on a variety of patterns.
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Will this ball be good in wet dry conditions
This ball is rated for medium to heavy oil. It will not work well in dry conditions.
I'm using g a 14 lb motiv combat tank and bowling on mid-heavy oil and I'm leaving alot of pocket 5 pins. Would you expect tmis
A combat tank is not designed to have a large hook potential because it is a urethane cover. Because it is not very much hook it is designed for lighter oil so in medium to heavy oil you would like not get much hook from that ball. If you are coming in the pocket straighter then it will be harder to get pin action and get strikes. You would do better to go to a reactive ball like this Forge and if you have to swing it out and let it come into the pocket with more angle so that it can get better pin action. If you get into lighter oil conditions later in the night you could try the Combat Tank again but I would wait to bring it back out until the lanes are pretty light oil.
Is motive forge fire ball made in the USA?
Based on the Motiv site they are made in the USA. https://www.motivbowling.com/company/about-us.html
What layout for seniors for speed 11.5-12.7
Unfortunately Motiv does not post the drilling layouts on their website so you may have to talk to your local driller to see what options are available to match your style.
I have forge fire and a roto grip dare devil the dare devil seems stronger in the back end what can I do to surface of the ball make it stronger
The Dare Devil did have a polished finish out of the box so this polished finish will help the Dare Devil go a little longer and store all of its hook for the backend to make a sharper backend. The Forge Fire has a 4000 grit finish which gives you pretty good length but it starts hooking a little earlier so if you want to get that sharper hook you may have to polish the Forge Fire to help it go longer for a sharper backend.
How is this ball any good for a down and in shot?
This ball has a great reaction for a down and in shot giving more a more angled reaction than the original.
Is the forge fire two handed
You can technically use almost any ball for a two handed release. Two handed releases typically have a higher rev rate. If you have a high ball speed too then this ball would do well for you in medium to heavy oil. If you have a slower ball speed then you may want to stick to mostly heavy oil with this ball.
I currently use the United Revolt can I expect a similar reaction with this ball?
This ball will not react quite as late as the United Revolt. It will start to read a little earlier and it will have a smoother hook reaction than the United Revolt which was very angular.
I have the Rouge Assasin as my first out of the bag. I am wondering if this would be a good ball for heavier oil than the rouge can handle and if it would be a good one two combo
I think you would have to bump up to the Alpha Jackal or the Trident Abyss to get a stronger hook potential more suited for heavy oil conditions.
Would this be good for a rev dominant player on 44+ ft oil patterns?
Yes, this could work well for a rev dominant bowler in a longer oil pattern. It is designed to give you good length so it will not jump too early on you in heavier oil.
What balls are made in USA
Motiv's performance bowling balls are made in the USA.
Due to the time it takes to produce the Motiv Forge Fire ball it will ship in immediately. We cannot ship this ball outside the United States.